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Jordan Hughes is a Sydney-based multidisciplinary designer and currently the Design Lead at UpGuard, one of the world\u2019s fastest-growing cybersecurity SaaS platforms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n

We\u2019re looking to partner with companies that share our passion to promote healthy work-life balance around the world. Get in touch with us<\/a>!<\/em><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

1) To kick things off, could you tell us a little about your career background and current role?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Hey, I\u2019m Jordan<\/a>. I’m a multidisciplinary designer based in Sydney.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m currently Design Lead at UpGuard<\/a>, one of the world\u2019s fastest-growing cybersecurity SaaS platforms, with global customers including NASA and the New York Stock Exchange.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prior, I was the second employee at Spaceship<\/a>, an Aussie financial tech startup, where I was the Operations Manager and part-time designer. Spaceship was the fastest-growing new entrant in the world, growing to $100m in assets and a 50,000+ waitlist before we had even launched. It was an interesting experience and we raised $40m+ in venture capital.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Outside of work, I spend my nights working on freelance or side projects; notably Good Books<\/a>, Breakout Careers<\/a>, and another project in the works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I don\u2019t have a background in design and have only really considered it my \u201ccareer\u201d in the last 12-months when I decided it was my next focus. I studied Management and Finance at UTS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

2) What does a day in the life look like for you? Can you take us through a recent workday?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I love habits and routine. It\u2019s a bit boring, but I work best when I can structure out my days for periods of uninterrupted deep work<\/a>. I work from home most days which is perfect for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I try to get up at 6am and I\u2019ll usually take this first hour to ease into work and listen to an audiobook or podcast. I\u2019ll make a batch of coffee and breakfast and try to be awake and at my desk by 7am.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ll usually use this time to focus on side projects. Occasionally, I\u2019ll take on freelance work or use this time to master a new skill. This is my most productive time to work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At 8:30am I\u2019ll check in with the team at UpGuard. They work in sprint cycles so I\u2019ll work on designing upcoming features. I also work closely with their Head of Growth on marketing projects (website, emails, sales collateral etc.) outside of this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I try to reserve my morning to tackle my no. 1 priority for the day or the most difficult problem. Once I\u2019ve made progress on that, the rest of the day is a lot easier. I\u2019ll then spend my afternoon working on other priorities, taking a 15-minute break if I\u2019m feeling unfocused around 3pm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At around 5pm, I\u2019ll close Slack and my notifications are off for the rest of the night. I\u2019ll try and get some exercise or go for a walk at this point to switch off. My girlfriend and I love to cook and go a bit overboard most weeknights which ties me up till 7:30pm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I try not to go back to my desk at this point. Sometimes I will if I have a deadline for a freelance project, but it\u2019s not going to be my best work. Usually, I\u2019ll just grab my Macbook and sit on the couch to do some less-intensive design work, reading or admin stuff. Shallow work that I try not to waste focused time on. Or I\u2019ll just relax.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On most weekend mornings, I\u2019ll reserve until around 10am for freelance and side projects. I try and maintain the same routine and get real work done here. I don\u2019t see it work as I\u2019m usually working on something I\u2019m passionate about. If I\u2019m not feeling it, I\u2019ll just take the day off work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

3) Does your current role allow for flexible or remote working? If so, how does that fit into your life and routine?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m very fortunate to work with the team at UpGuard\u2014they are very supportive of autonomous and remote work. I work from home most days which is perfect for me, and we have people all around the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I really believe you can achieve a usual workday\u2019s output in 4 hours if you can just focus and cut out meetings and distractions. I\u2019d like to think more companies are waking up to this. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

There are definitely benefits of working together in a space when it\u2019s the right space. But loud colleagues, office politics and Slack are not conducive to good work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

4) What does work-life balance mean to you and how do you work to achieve that goal?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I think the definition of work-life balance differs with everyone. Some people have different internal drivers and goals. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m pretty internally driven and restless, so my ideal work-life balance is having more time to spend on things I want to work on and on personal projects. I\u2019m starting to value this more every day and learning to switch off when it\u2019s time to switch off.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Setting boundaries with work-life balance was something I was seriously struggling with a few years ago\u2014I was working very long hours in a toxic environment. I\u2019m at a place now where I\u2019m pretty happy with my balance. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I still work long hours sometimes, but when I do it\u2019s because I want to work towards my own goals and not at the detriment of my health or relationships. Separating work and life is really about control and discipline and I had to learn that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If your work-life balance isn\u2019t what you want it to be, it\u2019s 100% your responsibility to fix it. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

If your current job is affecting your quality of life or making you work overtime, you should quit and find a better job. Immediately. It\u2019s not worth it in the long run and you\u2019ll figure it out. No work is as important as people make it out to be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

5) What do you think are some of the best habits or routines that you\u2019ve developed over the years to help you achieve success in your life?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

A real tipping point for me was reading Deep Work<\/a><\/em> by Cal Newport<\/a> back in 2017. It\u2019s one book I try and re-read once a year and it really opened my eyes to how distracted I am. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ve developed this into a habit by structuring my day for periods of time to focus. Cal calls this the \u201csuperpower of the 21st century\u201d and it\u2019s probably the one habit that\u2019s made the biggest impact on me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Working on one thing at a time and working on it well is the key to getting into a flow state and getting things done. I ruthlessly block out everything else, which goes on a to-do list in Notion so I can clear it out of my mind completely.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Pairing this with a consistent routine is pure compounding magic. I\u2019ve seen it pay dividends in my own work and progress in just a few years. You can pick up skills faster and operate at a higher level than people with 10+ years more experience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Outside of work, getting 8 hours of sleep and eating a super healthy diet every day has a huge impact on my energy and focus. This doesn\u2019t mean I don\u2019t drink or eat out \u2013 I\u2019ll have a glass of wine most nights and anyone who tells you that\u2019s bad is a duffer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

There have been many habits I\u2019ve tried to work into my routine that haven\u2019t stuck. I\u2019ve tried meditating daily for weeks at a time, but it\u2019s not for me and that\u2019s totally fine as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

6) Do you have any favourite books, podcasts or newsletters that you’d like to recommend?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Few books have had as much of an impact on my life than Cal Newport\u2019s Deep Work<\/em> or James Clear\u2019s Atomic Habits<\/em><\/a> \u2014 focus and habitual behaviour are a powerful force multiplier. I\u2019ve listed a few other great books on habits and productivity here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On work, David Epstein\u2019s Range<\/a> <\/em>is a great read on the future of your work in a generalised world and why you\u2019re probably doing it wrong. Bill Walsh\u2019s The Score Takes Care of Itself<\/a><\/em> is a memoir and philosophy for work and life that really resonated with me (and I don\u2019t even watch football).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On life, Ryan Holiday\u2019s The Obstacle is the Way<\/em><\/a> was my first introduction to Stoicism<\/em> and I recommend it to anyone trying to find balance. And Jonathan Safran Foer\u2019s Eating Animals<\/a><\/em> is an important book I think everyone should read.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

7) What is the number one thing you do to make sure you get the most out of your day?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ll carve out 1-2 hours before my workday starts to focus on personal projects every morning. I\u2019ve found this is by far my most productive time when my energy and mind are sharpest. It\u2019s quiet and there are no distractions. I will very rarely miss a day now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ll use this time to work on freelance things or side projects, whatever is most pressing. It doesn\u2019t sound like much, but if I do this every day it adds up to 5-10 hours per week of focused work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s such a habit now that I don\u2019t think about it and it allows me to actually get (real) work done instead of just shallow stuff. If my workday is clogged with meetings or less important tasks, I\u2019ve at least got that win in before my day really starts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

8) If you could read an interview about work-life balance by anyone, who would that be?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019d love to chat with Sam Altman<\/a>. He\u2019s accomplished more in a short career than most people do in several lifetimes. His frameworks and writing on personal risk, balance and compounding your career have had a huge impact on me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

9) Do you have any last thoughts on work, life or balance that you\u2019d like to share with our readers?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Relax: no one actually knows what they’re doing. Taking things too seriously and focusing on one specialised career path (usually because of a uni degree) is a huge trap for people in their twenties.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think the most important thing you can do instead is to learn a wide discipline of skills, build good habits, automate your finances, and learn to focus. Compound interest is a good metaphor here. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you can implement these pillars early in your career and improve a little every day, you\u2019ll be miles ahead in a few years. The more you compound, the more leverage and freedom you\u2019ll have to dictate the work-life balance that you want.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

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